I recently heard on the radio that the definition of the poverty level is to be reviewed. The federal poverty level is indeed based on an
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old concept and even after adjustment for inflation, the poverty levels do not reflect what it means to be poor today.
But the New York State Child Support Enforcement Unit knows. It has its own, officious concept of poverty or rather a level of income beyond which it will not strip you off of everything you have. Let us introduce to the world the S.S.R. : Self Support Reserve. If you ask the Child Support Enforcement Unit why it takes more out of your income than the imbecile percentages defined by law, they will send you a form whereby you have to prove that the amount withheld on your income bring the latter below the SSR. Everybody will immediately acknowledge the typical bias of New York State family laws: In family courts, you need to prove that you are not guilty. To the Child Support Enforcement unit, that you are not totally dying.
What is the SSR, the magical level that might trigger New York State’ s compassion? $14,620 a year. $1,218 a month. I guess this is the self support level if you live in the Adirondacks in a subsidized housing project and supplement your diet with a lot of apples that you pick on trees.
Why don’t New York State take the next step consistent with its perfect contempt for parental rights and his bureaucratic, Soviet like oppressive child support policy? Built State Non custodial State father camps, half way between New York and Albany. Non custodial fathers would be transported to their work places and brought back every day to the camp by public transportation. Of course, the fare will be deducted from their SSR, as well as State determined rental fee for their bed in the camp. The bastards would spend what’s left from their SSR into State owned grocery stores.
I think that New York should reconsider how to caculate child support. For example instead of taking your gross income and working down, it should work upwards. For example how much are you alloted for food, shelter, and clothing. Then how about transportation and health insurance. Why should a non-custodial parent have to have the extra stress of worring about where they will live or eat ,and if they will have enough gas money to get to work.
My son’s income in 2010 (agi) was just 20,000 and his support for his two kids was pegged at $1525.00 per month. After many modifications for downward adjustment, he has been sentenced to 30 days in jail on Nov. 1, 20112 unless he pays the arrears of $17,000. He makes $20.00 an hour, 40 hrs per week and he is being garnished $538.00 each bi-weekly payroll. What do they expect him to do??? Eat worms and grass??? Meanwhile she is on vacation with the kids in California and the Western States on the $8,000.00 he sent her 4 months ago, afer buying a horse for $7,000.00. Where is the justice in all of this?? He no longer can afford an attorney and at this level of income they say that he cannot get a court appointed attorney.
Some fair deal this is. I am disgusted with the NYS court system and the blatant cronism in our local county courts/
Please Help! – I am being RAPED by New York Family Court ! When will this hell end, I can’t take it anymore!
Ex-Wifey Poo is all dolled up today in her EQUISTRIAN GEAR for a show, had to have kids back to her by 10 am since they can stay on a holiday Monday past the usual 8am. Guess that is so she can sleep in. Left the grandkids at the horse show where they will sit in the car while she plays at being a horsewoman. Thanks God son could get the $8,000.00 dollars of arrears to her two months ago, so she could buy another horse.
WTF is wrong with family court and the system in general???? Son working 40 hrs a week at $20.00 per hr. paid bi-weekly, therefore he should gross $1,600.00 per pay period. Garnishment is $527.00 per pay period, deduct for taxes and Fica and he has about $200.00 to live on. Meanwhile she is a CPA, incorporated as a PC, 2011 she brought in about $154,000.00. She claims a salary of $66,000.00 annually and yet he has to give her $1,625.00 per month on what he makes. Can anyone shed on light on the absurdity of this situation?????????????? PLEASE.
Your numbers don’t compute accurately. If he is making $20/hr for a 40 hour work week, he earns $800 per week or $41,600 annually. When you adjust for child support purposes, take off 7.65% or $3,124.40, leaving $38,417.60. Two kids make it 25% for child support. He should pay $9,604.40 annually, or $369.40 per 2 week pay period. Someone is being totally untruthful here.
At the last court date the judge determined that after reviewing the combined income statement for the year they split that the numbers were bogus. he had already seen three lawyers at that point and not one of them caught that. Judge determined new support number of $900.00 per month, and levied an additional amount towards the arrears. The system sucks and the lawyers are in bed with the other side. Time to dismantle the system.
i don’t have a problem paying child support but why is it i have to work and she gets to sit home collecting my checks and not work. i thought in a relationship its 50/50 why not the same when you have kids. and now i get hit again for cost of living increase what my cost of living doesn’t go up what crap is this. i pay health insurance for them and have to pay 70% in any additional medical they need. and why do men have to get a paper signed to claim the kids in taxes every year we support them all year we should be able to claim them without dealing with the ex.
Looking for advise. I am a non custodial father that has a good job in the construction industry. A few years ago i went through a divorce and was ordered to pay $390 a week in child support and $110 a week in alimony, which i tried to comply with to the best of my ability. I broke my leg and was unable to make it get this adjusted for for almost 8 weeks building up a delinquent balance. knowing that i owed this money i found it hard to catch up. over the next few years i went through unemployment hear and there and never knew to get a modification of support each and every time. well the delinquent amount had grown to over $10k. My ex had taken me to court for my arrears and the Child support enforcement unit started to garnish my wages. Making $1200 gross a week after taxes getting $900 net, they are taking the $500 in child support and maintenance leaving $400. Then taking half of whatever is left to pay off the garnishment. This leaves me $200 or less to live on. Is there anything i can do? Or is this just the way it has to be??
My daughter is receiving SSDI benefits of less than $1200 per month. This income is being garnished by NYS Child Support for nearly $700 per month although her income is only slightly above the poverty level. Not only this but SHE is the one providing many of the child’s needs such as toiletries, a large part of our granddaughter’s clothes, eye exams, etc. We’re told that is not contributing to her support but rather these things are considered GIFTS! The child has been hospitalized since April and he fraudulently accepted support payments for several months during this time. His current support has been stopped but arrears are still owed. Our daughter has NO problem paying the arrears but has filled out new financial forms and provided copies of her latest court order and asked for Child Support Enforcement to recalculate her monthly support amount fairly and in accordance with their own financial guidelines. Their response? To put a freeze on her bank account for the total amount of the arrears indefinitely…right before Christmas. When trying to discuss this with them all they keep saying is “We CAN take xyz…” No empathy, no response to questions as to why they are enforcing and old order and NOT following the judge’s recommendation that support be recalculated. The bottom line is they are scum-sucking state workers, assured of never losing their jobs and don’t give a rat’s ass about someone who is being unfairly treated by the system. Our daughter is NOT a deadbeat – she is a wonderful mother who does more for her child in one day that the REAL deadbeat does all year.
Let Me start by saying, I pray that oneday all of us who are being pissed on by the system will be allowed to sue HRA/Child Support Enforcement. Family Court is not the problem, OCSE has to much Power, they walk a fine line between Unethical and down right Criminal! My Support Order started in April of 1989 through Supreme Court ( divorse ) $75.00 per week, one child.In Aug of 1989, my ex, resigned from her job with the FBI Immigration Dept. and Went On PA. In addition, she put my our son on her case ( Making Him A Ward Of The State ). I received a notice from HRA, informing me that I should no longer sent my payments to my ex-wife, Put too, Child Support Enforcement. Futhermore, I was to put her ADC Account Number on the check, money order… TWO PROBLEMS with these instructions. You Must Have An OCSE Account Number, And You Must Go To Family Court To Modifie The Order. So For, Four Years ( 1989,-1993, ), My Son’s Support Money Sat In The System. When I Was Summon To Court, in 1993, I was told I had Arrears tolding, $14,661.40. I showed the Judge Money Orders, and Personal Checks that were cashed by NYC OCSE. I Was Told By The Judge In A Very Nasty Way, I Had To Take It Up With OCSE At The Court House. Had To Lose Another Days Work ! I Was Told By Dss/Ocse agent They found nearlly $8,000.00 dollars in the wrong account, just sat in the system for four years. Did they pay my son intrest on this money, NO ? Did They Correct The Mistake, NO ? My story is to long, so I will cut to the chase. In 2007, My arrears to the Custodial Parent were set at $14,500.00. Sept. 15, I started a new Job, too which I started paying my arrears ( Court Ordered at $50.00 per week in1993,). By the way, $19,254.00 was collected by OCES 1993,- 2007. My son did receive any this money ! DSS was Over payed by $1,653.00. Finally, In 2010, Got A Judge Who Sas Able To Fix Some Of The Problems, And Helped Tremendously, By removing DSS From The Equation and Closing My Child Support Case,( Should Have Been closed In 2005 ). I payed My Arrears Of $14,500.00 to my Ex-wife in June, 20th. 2011. As Of Sept. 2011, DSS/OCSE Has Been Taking $ 216.40 per month From My SS Retirement ( I Receive $895.40 per Month – $216.40 leaves $679.00) to pay back $26,000.00 Cash Income Maintance For My Ex-Wife’s PA Case ( NEVER HEARD OF THIS SCAM BEFORE ! ) So, I Went From Paying Child Support To Paying A City Agency Back Tax Payer Money. O By The Way, What Happen To The $19,254.00 ? This Agency Dose Not Care About People ! They’re Only About How Much Money They Can Get Out Of These Cases. DON’T EVER PUT YOUR CHILDREN ON P.A. TRY TO WORK IT OUT BETWEEN YOURSELVES. IN LONG RUN IT IS YOUR CHILDREN WHO SUFFER. ABSOLUTE POWER, CAUSES ABSOLUTE CORRUPTION ! Need Good Lawyer, So I Can Sue These BASTARDS !!!
The OCSE may have too much but they don’t have resources you might think they have. If you are being denied your access to your children, take your dick, as well as your license, and leave New York State. If support can’t find you, they will hound the shit out of your ex to find out where you are because support is too lazy to look for anyone. Heaven Forbid a lazy “system” get off of its ass and do anything for anybody because once you turn to state, you’re at its mercy.
I see no way out but one,,,,,may god be with me!!!!
Gene you need to consider your children, don’t let her trap you into doing something that the kids will be privy to. Please.
Why is it called “child support”?